Reset Skill/TM/Moveset

hi Guys,

Time to reset Cryl skillset, I have noticed I could be a bit better if I put my points into different skills/moves

If you have any suggestions please feel free to post below.

Tournament points:

101

To do this right I will buy all the moves and the best trainer, the new moves will be put on "disable" but will be trained nevertheless with the trainer. The reason for doing this is to get as much "training time" back wenn I reset so I can put into the moves that I select.
Now when exactly I will do the reset I dont know.

this is what I have come up with sofar

Opening Move	Bleed?
Knee on Head	yes
Punch	yes
Throat Trust	no
Standing
Head Butt	yes
Hard Headbutt	yes
Fist But	yes
Bentdown
Piledriver	yes
Double Underhook Piledriver	yes
Reverse Powerslam
Groggy
Jumping Piledriver	yes
Face Slam	yes
Air Raid Siren	yes
Grounded
Rocket Launcher	yes
Two Handed Face Buster	yes
Leg Drop	no
You Are Running
Running DDT	yes
Chin Breaker	yes
Running Opponent
Polish Hammer	yes
Running Knee Smash	yes
Spinebuster	no
One Wrestler are Running
Both Wrestlers are running
Out of the ring grounded
Knee Drop on Step Ladder	yes
Spinebuster on the Step Ladder	yes
Coconut Crush on the Apron	yes
out of the ring standing
Powerbomb to Concrete	yes
to the ropes grounded
to the ropes standing
turnbuckle grounded
turnbuckel standing
stunned
Double Knee Drop From Turnbuckle	yes
Super DDT	yes
Diving Big Boot	yes

now to the AT

What I have:
INCREASED BLOCK (level 10: Inexperienced)
POWER BLOW (level 20: Rising Star)
INNER RAGE (level 8: Aspirant)
DAMAGE RESISTANCE (level 19: Promise)
INCREASED RESISTANCE (level 7: Beginner)

I am thinking its to many, its either concentrate on pure damage or trying to hold out longer. Since I am STR I think I will go for pure Damage and hope to bleed my opponent to death

I would take only:
POWER BLOW
INCREASED RESISTANCE
and maybe
INCREASED BLOCK

What do you think?

It may seem that way now but the DR is very important no matter what. I have seen the builds where people don't worry about DR but they really only seem to work when they have loads and loads of AT's which allows them to just load up on block and not get hit and those people are normally tech which gives them that focus of avoiding moves too with the base stats.

I say this all the time but if you focus on DR, DDI and Stam only you will see much improvement on your guys but to be honest you have the same AT's I use minus the HP I recently added after looking at other top guys AT's. One question is how much adren does your finisher cost? If it is not high you might be able to drop one or 2 ats from rage and move those points elsewhere but I like the top one best when it comes to AT's

Also how much of an impact does that trainer thing really have? I know you did it before but I was wondering how much more it gives you moves wise.

The trainer gives you exicutions, so when you are at lvl 0 with a move and you get alot of exicutions the move levels up. Reseting the moves puts the exicutions into unused time. So if you think about it you get "free" time to invest in other moves.
Also the trainer raises your TMs and Finishers likewise with exicutions. And the 200-300 exp help.

My finisher needs 1000 adrn so thats why I had started to pour ATs into that.

Crylion (level 60)
Points: 17450,17 - Winning: 29%
Damage: 10125,52 - 16200,4 Attack Bonus: 10
Bleeding % chance: 10
Required Adrenaline: 1020
Required Wrestler Status: Always
Required Position: Groggy
Level Progress: 7,14%

I was more asking if buying the top trainer before you did it was really worth the TP's. With your adren use you should actually be about right with adren gain and that finisher. Only you really know if you are gettting the results you want for it but trust me it is always nice to have that Finisher weapon that can win you any match.

well I would not go that high with a trainer if I would not do a reset.
If its worth it... well I for one only hit my finisher once a fight, if I train with the trainer it does 20+ every time, even had it do 36 exicutions once which is really nice to lvl up the finisher expecially if its already high and take a long time to lvl up.

I would really like to hit my finisher much more earlier in a match so I have been pumoping alot of ATs in inner rage. But I have not felt a difference so I will prob lay off of raising that and go for something else.

I used to not go for DR but when I reset the last time I really noticed a difference, so I just might go back down that path

lvl 25 trainer

Finisher	Execution
Crylion	+11
Bloody Pounding	+23

Trademark	Execution
Eat Dirt And Bleed	+39
Painful Kiss	+23
Bloody Penacle	+42

Taunts	Execution
Crylion	+29

Exp gained

+136

If you have the TPs, the top level trainer is really worth it. I tested it out, and did some (very simple!) calculations on it on the OCW forum, and it turns out you make quite a lot of money in levelling up moves you don't plan to use. That's really good for you, Cryl: Since you seem to plan on having a very limited set of moves, you will get a lot of fantas to spend on training them extremely high / getting more entrances.

Yes that was the Idea, having 3 moves in all positions and leveling them up very high.
I remember discussing with you on the OCW forums about this and I know it works.

Personally, I think training the moves get way too expensive at a certain level. When you reach level 60, which I used for the most often used positions where the damage payoff is also worth it (=grounded, groggy), it's just too damn expensive. At that point I'd rather put it into entrances (which I did).

Personally I have trained every single one of my moves to level 25 now but I have more then 3 moves per thing in some areas like groggy an ground and bent I have 5 or 6

well my highest moves are

LEG DROP - LEVEL 77 and FACE SLAM - LEVEL 77 looking what I would get at the moment:

Total reached for reset
Money: 1931244
Timer usable for upgrade MOVES: 18371,58

I will update this in 15 days and then we can calculate if it was worth it (Your sparring partner is: Master Level 29 The War Machine Tullo)

just awsome

Here is Todays Training session results:

Finisher	Execution
Crylion	+52

I am thinking I am going to do a big time build switch soon to test something out... I have no idea how it will work but I am pretty sure it will work out. The cost of going this route is kind of big with the trainer can be expensive with TP's

50 for Skill and Stat Reset
20 for AT's
40 for Trainer
110 total...

I want to know if this is worth it too. Guess we will just have to wait and see.

after 15 days of training

Total reached for reset
Money: 1931244
Timer usable for upgrade MOVES: 18371,58

to
Total reached for reset
Money: 2061714
Timer usable for upgrade MOVES: 19052,15

Hey Cryl seeing as we are fueding this season I have an idea for your stat reset... leave everything at zero so I can atcually win, lol!

nice one Worthy

Now since Playboy has signed, Saint, Jeremy, Argo and Marcus beat me up most of the time I am in a world of trouble...

Should I stay my gimick true and hog up on bleed moves like I have now...

or go for plan B in 15 days after the reset and go only for hard hitting moves so I can keep up with these guys..

or plan C and do something totally different... Sub Str...

decisions... decisions...

I'd say go hard hitting! It always great feel g when you can beat the big guys in this fed up!
Go for the best build I say

Hard hitting, but make sure to include some medium damage moves with a high bleed bonus.

Hard Hitting + Bleed build is pretty good IMO. Bleed can really soften your opponent up plus it adds to your gimmick.

Thanks for the replies, this is what I have come up with:

Opening Move
Throat Thrust	Minimum Damage: 2	Maximum Damage: 14	1st Ability: Rage	2nd Ability: Stiff Blow	total Ability: 20
European Uppercut	Minimum Damage: 1	Maximum Damage: 15	1st Ability: Rage	2nd Ability: Berserker	total Ability: 20
Knee on Head	Minimum Damage: 3	Maximum Damage: 5	1st Ability: Might	2nd Ability: Unstoppable Blow	total Ability: 2	Bleed
Standing
Elbow Smash	Minimum Damage: 5	Maximum Damage: 15	1st Ability: Head Start	2nd Ability: Elasticity	total Ability: 13
Roundhouse Kick	Minimum Damage: 5	Maximum Damage: 20	1st Ability: Improved Reflexes	2nd Ability: Lightness	total Ability: 26
Mule Kick	Minimum Damage: 2	Maximum Damage: 20	1st Ability: Head Start	2nd Ability: Lightness	total Ability: 25
Bent Down
Piledriver	Minimum Damage: 11	Maximum Damage: 61	1st Ability: Might	2nd Ability: Rage	total Ability: 73	Bleed 10%
Double Underhook Piledriver	Minimum Damage: 9	Maximum Damage: 60	1st Ability: Might	2nd Ability: Fury	total Ability: 75	Bleed 15%
Released Powerbomb	Minimum Damage: 12	Maximum Damage: 60	1st Ability: Unstoppable Blow	2nd Ability: Fury	total Ability: 80
Groggy
Chokeslam	Minimum Damage: 10	Maximum Damage: 63	1st Ability: Might	2nd Ability: Unstoppable Blow	total Ability: 80
Body Press to Front Slam	Minimum Damage: 9	Maximum Damage: 62	1st Ability: Stiff Blow	2nd Ability: Fury	total Ability: 80
Double Chokelift Slam	Minimum Damage: 9	Maximum Damage: 60	1st Ability: Might	2nd Ability: Berserker	total Ability: 72
Grounded
Leg Drop	Minimum Damage: 10	Maximum Damage: 63	1st Ability: Rage	2nd Ability: Unstoppable Blow	total Ability: 80
Fire Spin	Minimum Damage: 10	Maximum Damage: 44	1st Ability: Rage	2nd Ability: Berserker	total Ability: 66
Rocket Launcher	Minimum Damage: 4	Maximum Damage: 32	1st Ability: Unstoppable Blow	2nd Ability: Stiff Blow	total Ability: 40	Bleed 10%
You are running
Running DDT	Minimum Damage: 1	Maximum Damage: 15	1st Ability: Rage	2nd Ability: Berserker	total Ability: 18	Bleed 10%
Clothesline to Back	Minimum Damage: 3	Maximum Damage: 13	1st Ability: Unstoppable Blow	2nd Ability: Berserker	total Ability: 0
Chin Breaker	Minimum Damage: 3	Maximum Damage: 12	1st Ability: Unstoppable Blow	2nd Ability: Stiff Blow	total Ability: 20	Bleed 2%
Running Opponent
Spinebuster	Minimum Damage: 9	Maximum Damage: 47	1st Ability: Might	2nd Ability: Stiff Blow	total Ability: 69
Running Knee Smash	Minimum Damage: 6	Maximum Damage: 39	1st Ability: Rage	2nd Ability: Unstoppable Blow	total Ability: 54	Bleed 10%
Power Slam	Minimum Damage: 4	Maximum Damage: 32	1st Ability: Rage	2nd Ability: Unstoppable Blow	total Ability: 45
Out of ring (grounded)
Knee Drop on Step Ladder	Minimum Damage: 6	Maximum Damage: 42	1st Ability: Fury	2nd Ability: Berserker	total Ability: 60	Bleed 10%
Spinebuster on the Step Ladder	Minimum Damage: 3	Maximum Damage: 41	1st Ability: Fury	2nd Ability: Berserker	total Ability: 60	Bleed 10%
Coconut Crush on the Apron	Minimum Damage: 10	Maximum Damage: 31	1st Ability: Fury	2nd Ability: Might	total Ability: 50	Bleed 10%
Out of ring (standing)
Powerbomb to Concrete	Minimum Damage: 11	Maximum Damage: 57	1st Ability: Fury	2nd Ability: Rage	total Ability: 80	Bleed 10%
Big Splash Outside the Ring	Minimum Damage: 10	Maximum Damage: 63	1st Ability: Fury	2nd Ability: Rage	total Ability: 80
Spear trough Crowd Barriers	Minimum Damage: 7	Maximum Damage: 44	1st Ability: Fury	2nd Ability: Unstoppable Blow	total Ability: 70
Stunned
Diving Spear	Minimum Damage: 10	Maximum Damage: 63	1st Ability: Rage	2nd Ability: Fury	total Ability: 73
Spear	Minimum Damage: 10	Maximum Damage: 63	1st Ability: Rage	2nd Ability: Berserker	total Ability: 73
Double Knee Drop From Turnbuckle	Minimum Damage: 12	Maximum Damage: 60	1st Ability: Unstoppable Blow	2nd Ability: Berserker	total Ability: 80	Bleed 25%

Cryl wrote:

after 15 days of training

Total reached for reset
Money: 1931244
Timer usable for upgrade MOVES: 18371,58

to
Total reached for reset
Money: 2061714
Timer usable for upgrade MOVES: 19052,15

after 30 days of lvl 29 Trainer:

Total reached for reset
Money: 2238789
Timer usable for upgrade MOVES: 20176,41

Now I will let the time run down on the statistic and then do the reset.

114 Hours till reset